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Passez ici vous présenter ... Mais aussi, causer de tout et de rien; modération réduite
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Le topic de ce qui vous énerve...

Messagepar hireegy » mer. 23 mars 2011 11:54

Parce que des fois dans la vie il faut une soupape sinon on explose, ou tout simplement on a envie de parler d'un truc qui pour nous est important mais que personne ne semble remarquer, ou encore on se demande parfois si la seule intervention de dieu sur terre ne serait pas la loi de murphy tellement des fois les accumulations de mauvais hasard sont totalement invraisemblables, je me suis dit qu'il fallait créer un tel exutoire, à la fois aux bugs, aux serveurs qui lachent, aux diques durs qui crament, aux anomalies totalement WTF et jamais vues sur le net qui n'arrivent qu'à votre ordi, ou du moins assez vus pour que la question soit posée mais trop chelou pour qu'il y ait une réponse de quelqu'un qui sache vraiment ce qui se passe; et à tout ce qui, en général, vous donne envie de gueuler.... Bref, vous l'aurez compris: un truc voudrait vous obliger à péter un câble mais ne vous laisserait pas en parler: lâchez vous!

Commençons donc, par quelques exemples qui iraient dans la section "abus de pouvoir silencieux":

Je commence ici par un truc que je trouve bizarre mais qui continuera sûrement d'être accepté silencieusement pendant des années: le cluf (contrat de licence utilisateur final) de flash player. Vous avez déjà essayé de faire "lire le contrat de licence" sur les fameuses petites fenêtres, d'ailleurs toujours visibles au-dessus des autres, des mises à jour flash player? Vous devriez...tout comme le fait que la mise à jour ne soit téléchargée qu'APRES que vous ayez accepté de l'installer, ce qui fait qu'il va essayer pendant une minute entière de se "connecter" (à se demander ce qu'il peut bien envoyer, et où, pendant tout ce temps, concernant votre ordi, alors que votre connexion internet marche à merveille), et bien le cluf, est en ligne! Et en plus, même pas vous tombez de suite dessus, non il faut trouver à quelle catégorie appartient flash, pour le trouver et afficher si tout va bien ce fameux cluf. Et dans ce cluf, finalement, tout y passe: ils vous stockent des trucs chez vous, partagent votre bande passante avec on ne sait qui (si si!), et des tas d'autres choses abracadabrantes. Et là, quand vous voulez savoir comment contrôler ces fameux fichiers temporaires flash (comme pour les fichiers internet temporaires, options internet etc...), et bien il y a un lien, en https, même pas foutu d'avoir un certificat valable! on parle d'une mise à jour récente d'adobe quand même...tout pour décourager de savoir vraiment ce qu'il se passe de nos jours dans votre ordi. Vive l'opacité. Dormez bien, ne vous souciez de rien, il faut que vous restiez endormis pour qu'on arrive à satisfaire ces rapaces de publicitaires qui demandent de plus en plus de choses questionables du point de vue données personnelles et liberté de l'utilisateur...de plus en plus voraces d'accès à vos yeux, à vos infos, et d'enracinement dans votre ordi...Je veux dire, si vous regardez d'autres programmes, le cluf est téléchargé avec le package, il est clair, tout est là, et on voit rarement des mentions aussi bizarres. Il n'y a qu'avec flash que ça se passe comme ça! Et pourtant, personne ne dit rien!
Je pense simplement au temps où les gens, les ancêtres des geeks, savaient vraiment ce qu'ils installaient, ce qu'il se passait dans leur ordi. Aujourd'hui j'ai l'impression qu'à part avec certaines distributions de Linux, genre Gentoo, une telle compréhension et une telle connaissance de ce qui est réellement installé sur votre ordi, en particulier pour les programmes liés à internet et à la connectivité, devient de plus en plus lointaine. Ainsi, certaines cartes wifi vous changent le dll gérant l'ouverture de session windows, ce qui fait qu'au démarrage un xp pro de maison ressemblera d'un coup à un xp pro sur un domaine d'entreprise! Bon dieu, mais à quel droit d'accès, inaccessible par d'autres moyens, ont ils tellement voulu accéder qu'ils en ont recouru à modifier un truc immédiatement visible...Pourquoi ne pas arriver un jour à votre ordi qui de façon générique exécuterait en permanence des tâches distribuées pour le compte d'on ne sait qui, et qui n'apparaitraient même pas dans l'utilisation du processeur, et ne feraient aucun accès au disque, ainsi elles ne seraient pas repérables par un indice physique pour un oeil non averti!

Même genre, toujours de chez adobe: mise à jour du reader. une fenêtre avec "cette mise à jour concerne "les problèmes clients et les failles de sécurité"", avec un petit lien "détails", qui ne marche...pas. quand vous cliquez dessus, il ne se passe rien. Avouez que ça met vachement en confiance quand à ce que ce truc, qui fait partie de la cohorte des programmes lançant un processus - inutile - à chaque démarrage d'ordi, installe on ne sait quoi pour corriger quelque chose de tout aussi nébuleux. "c'est pour notre bien". D'ailleurs, adobe reader est aussi celui qui, mises à jour ou pas, processus au démarrage ou pas, provoque toujours ces fameux clignotements de toutes les icones d'une fenêtre ou du bureau, à chaque fois qu'un fichier pdf devient visible dans l'explorateur. Ca, on ne corrige pas, non. Plutôt des trucs nébuleux pour complexifier toujours plus les pdf, mais qui s'ils ne sont pas installés vous empêcheront, par simple verrou de version, de lire tranquillement des pdf, qui perdraient parfois peu à être de simples txt ou rtf, puisque finalement la plupart du temps ne fait que lire le texte, qui est en ascii, ou au pire UTF-8...

Bref, et le précédent coup de gueule, c'était youtube qui forçait au compte google associé au compte youtube, sinon tu n'ouvres désormais plus ta session youtube, tout simplement. Et une fois que (contraint et forcé, ce que je n'ai pas fait évidemment), tu as fait l'association, à chaque connexion à youtube, il fait sauter toute page gmail ouverte vers l'adresse associée à ce compte youtube, donc si tu mets une adresse bidon, faudra choisir en permanence entre Youtube et ton vrai gmail d'ouvert...un peu de la même veine que les téléphones android, sur lesquels, si tu n'associe pas un compte google, et bien ton téléphone ne peut tout simplement pas te dire si l'on est mardi ou mercredi, car cela requiert un agenda, qui ne peut être que l'agenda google, uniquement en ligne, soumis à un compte. Un peu le comble de ne pas pouvoir savoir quel jour de la semaine on est, en 2011, avec un truc cadencé 1GHz, plus puissant que le meilleur ordi des années 80, avec 8Go de mémoire, dans sa poche. Du coup, tout ce que vous mettrez sur cet agenda sera d'abord, avant que vous puissiez lire quoi que ce soit, envoyé en ligne, stocké dans ces fameux serveurs quelque part au groënland, et dieu sait ce qui sera effectivement fait de ces données. Et on n'appelle pas ça forcer la main de l'utilisateur??

Au passage, je crois que c'est en Estonie, ou dans un des deux autres pays baltes, que chaque citoyen a une carte électronique, regroupant carte bancaire, carte d'identité, carte vitale, carte de mutuelle, carte d'étudiant, assurances, etc. Ainsi, des assureurs ou des banques peuvent, par un moyen tordu mais devenu légal, avoir accès au dossier médical de leurs clients, avant de leur accorder une assurance ou un prêt. Cet exemple extrême, et "matériel", n'est encore arrivé que dans un pays, mais pour ce qui est numérique, ça n'a pas de frontière, et ça fait quelques années que le mouvement a commencé...

On parle de 1984, de "big brother", comme d'une dérive totalitaire. On n'avait pas prévu que même dans un système ultralibéral et ultra-médiatisé, où soit-disant le moindre scandale serait immédiatement étalé au grand jour et ne pourrait survivre, ça pouvait quand même exister sous une forme plus subtile...

il y a pourtant un terme pour ça: l'abus de position dominante!

Et la seule arme qu'on ait contre ça, c'est d'en parler!

Désolé si ce post fait un peu parano, il se voulait initier un truc plus défoulant. Mais bon, je pensais qu'il fallait en parler, de tout ça...
"現は夢、夢は現。"
"Utsutsu wa yume, yume wa utsutsu"
La réalité est un rêve, le rêve est une réalité...
Que tout ceux qui n'ont pas fait un pèlerinage sur ce topic y aillent maintenant. Vous comprendrez pourquoi, surtout les jeunes...

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Re: Le topic de ce qui vous énerve...

Messagepar General-Guy » mer. 23 mars 2011 23:58

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60000 caractères = max! Scandale! Ça m'énerve!
Certains disent vivre sous une étoile malchanceuse...je crois qu'ils ne savent simplement pas faire une lecture du ciel.

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Messagepar Raitei » jeu. 24 mars 2011 00:13

Tes ballons smiley me font mal aux yeux guy . Voilà mon coup de gueule .

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Messagepar hireegy » jeu. 24 mars 2011 00:28

WTF...???
"現は夢、夢は現。"
"Utsutsu wa yume, yume wa utsutsu"
La réalité est un rêve, le rêve est une réalité...
Que tout ceux qui n'ont pas fait un pèlerinage sur ce topic y aillent maintenant. Vous comprendrez pourquoi, surtout les jeunes...

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Messagepar Libium » jeu. 24 mars 2011 00:50

General-Guy... Je te vénère :p

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Messagepar Aya Painsec » jeu. 24 mars 2011 09:44

lol
+1 :worthy:

Ce qui m'énerve aujourd'hui : il fait beau et chaud et je travaille, SCANDALEUX !
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Messagepar chambeyc » jeu. 24 mars 2011 10:15

Ca, ca m'enerve ...
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interes ... gica-ideon

Pour une fois qu'on avait une bonne serie de magical girls, ils veulent faire de la 2eme saison un moeblob .... :cry:
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Messagepar Haruka » ven. 25 mars 2011 14:50

j'ai déplacé mon lit et le pied ces barré ! plus moyen de le retrouver ca fait 2 jours XD !
( je pensait pas que mes livres d'école me servirait encore , oui ... ils me servent de pied d'lit maintenant :beer: )

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Messagepar kain-x-spirits » mar. 29 mars 2011 16:42

Ce qui m'enerve? Les mecs/filles qui viennent en amphi uniquement pour parler et rigoler <_<
"I am the white void. I am the cold steel. I am the just sword. With blade in hand shall I reap the sins of this world, and cleanse it in the fires of destruction."

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Messagepar Criss » mar. 29 mars 2011 18:25

Ce qui m'énerve, c'est quand je veux jouer en réseau et que le serveur EA plante...
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Moi PAPA, Moi Content! ^^''

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Messagepar Kaiser Panda » mar. 29 mars 2011 21:43

kain-x-spirits a écrit :Ce qui m'enerve? Les mecs/filles qui viennent en amphi uniquement pour parler et rigoler <_<


:worthy:

Dès le collège on te sort des "soyez adultes, vous n'êtes plus des enfants, bla bla bla", mais croyez moi : les adultes sont bien pires que les mioches, parfois............. (& je ne parle pas que de la fac, plus c'est vieux plus c'est con XD).

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Messagepar Gwench » mar. 29 mars 2011 21:56

Ah ben je faisais partie de ces gens-là moi :p Parler et rigoler... et avoir ses années :p

sinon ce qui m'énerve, c'est moi en ce moment qui cherche à savoir si la nana qui me branche marche à voile ou à vapeur...

/me sort.

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Messagepar Criss » mar. 29 mars 2011 22:52

Gwench a écrit :sinon ce qui m'énerve, c'est moi en ce moment qui cherche à savoir si la nana qui me branche marche à voile ou à vapeur...

/me sort.


Tu part sur le mauvais chemin déjà... Elle marche toutes au pétrole. 8)
Moi PAPA, Moi Content! ^^''

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Messagepar Haruka » mar. 29 mars 2011 22:56

Criss a écrit :
Gwench a écrit :sinon ce qui m'énerve, c'est moi en ce moment qui cherche à savoir si la nana qui me branche marche à voile ou à vapeur...

/me sort.


Tu part sur le mauvais chemin déjà... Elle marche toutes au pétrole. 8)

Mdrrrr :cheers:

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Messagepar Raitei » mer. 30 mars 2011 00:31

Criss a écrit :
Gwench a écrit :sinon ce qui m'énerve, c'est moi en ce moment qui cherche à savoir si la nana qui me branche marche à voile ou à vapeur...

/me sort.


Tu part sur le mauvais chemin déjà... Elle marche toutes au pétrole. 8)

On dit qu'à l'avenir ça marchera à l'hydrogène 8) .

Sinon' , lettre de motivation à faire + finir J.E


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